price changes/exchange frustrations

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  1. johnniegoat

    johnniegoat Stop, don’t, come back.

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    i dropped out too. its taken @ 20 yrs to get my career to a point that took my graduate friends about 10 yr or less

    its not going to college makes you rich - its the choice *and* perceived choice

    you are rich if you have choices. my family is not wealthy but has done well, as most of us went to uni/ poly when it was free if you had the right grades. now you need the grades *and* finance. so now people like my family are put off furthering their education

    similarly low paid jobs - to get my job now, you need to prove 10-15 yrs experience or have a relevant degree. if i was 25 yr old me, i would not get my job

    there is a story in the paper this week - delivery driver died from diabetes related illness because if he took time off to go to the doctor, not only did he lose his day's income but his employer fined him. he felt he had no choice

    i have more choice, but not as much as others. a good education gives you more choices to get ahead
     
  2. ten-foot-tryptych

    ten-foot-tryptych half rock, half gas

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    It was ten years after I graduated (from my first degree) that I saw the value of it; not in terms of what I learned but in the doors it opened that would have remained shut. Up until that point I had perceived it as being a bit of a waste of time and money.
     
  3. Wade Garrett

    Wade Garrett I am the projectionist.

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    100% this.
     
  4. Brad_A

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    Update on original topic. I decided to order the ML1 Pro modern lunar from a Canadian store instead of the US route. Easier
    To deal with rather than trying to figure out exact costs of shipping from US and also paying customs/brokerage fees (also easier
    to return if there was an issue with the product). As well, my pre-order of the ML1 Baritone will also be arriving this week. Not only will this be my first Chapman, but I’ll be getting 2 !!! As for the Canadian prices, depending on which retailer you order from, there
    is a different tax rate which can add up to a good amount if that’s an issue when talking budget. (Both retailers offer free shipping)
     
  5. tylertheterrible

    tylertheterrible Well-Known Member

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    I assume you are referring to no pst in alberta? Yes it does help for sure. It doesn't really make sense for me to order from Ontario anyways, as its very far (im 28 hours drive from riff city and its well ovrr 40 hours to Ontario. Anyways, to me it appears the Canadian chapman retailers have raised the prices to be very similar to what it would cost to import anyways, i do realize importing adds a bunch of headache. I have family in Winnipeg and am considering just going to riff city. Still would have to pay import fees so I will need to do research first,
     
  6. Brad_A

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    Yes. The no PST thing. Taxes are 5% (Alberta) vs 13% (Ontario). On the Pro models, that’s a difference of approximately $100 from your wallet.
     
  7. tylertheterrible

    tylertheterrible Well-Known Member

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    Chapman guitars are still 10-20% more expensive in Canada (After exchange). Due to this i wont be seriously considering one anytime soon. Feel free to comment that i need to make more money and not complain about the prices of things.,
     
  8. johnniegoat

    johnniegoat Stop, don’t, come back.

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    that is perfectly understandable

    i have a decent income (though i live in stupidly expensive land) and would not pay 20% more
     
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  9. tylertheterrible

    tylertheterrible Well-Known Member

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    Ya, Unfortunatly Canadians already pay alot more in income taxes than Americans. We generally pay a bit more on everything, however its alot more noticable on things thats are 1500-2000 when they are a couple hundred cheaper south of the border.
     
  10. SemiCullen

    SemiCullen Still haven't got the hang of Thursdays

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    So, in the States, I would consider brands like Ibanez, Schecter and LTD to be Chapman's chief competition as they all make guitars at similar price points to both Chapman ranges. Do you find Chapmans to be similarly priced to their equivalent Ibanez, Schecter or LTD in Canada?
     
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  11. tylertheterrible

    tylertheterrible Well-Known Member

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    The ml3 bea smoke is $1819.99 in canada, today this is $1410usd. The guitar is $1249 in the states. And £1199 from andertons which is $1616.00 usd. Seems like England is the worst place to buy one from. Please tell me if my maths are out to lunch.
     
  12. tylertheterrible

    tylertheterrible Well-Known Member

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    Yes all those things are much cheaper to buy in the states, so i only buy on sale or used. Theres tons of used ibanezs and ltds around. Not so many chapmans.
     
  13. SemiCullen

    SemiCullen Still haven't got the hang of Thursdays

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    If the price of an item in your country is similar in cost to other similar items, then I don't get the heartache.

    You can't make exchange rate comparisons like that because there is a lot more that goes into the price of a guitar in some countries than in others. Tariffs, taxes, etc.

    Alternatively, have you priced one from Thomann?
     
  14. Simon Park

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    Chapman guitars are very reasonably priced here in Australia - but that may be because we're in the Southern Hemisphere and the shipping costs from the factory aren't as high (just me guessing), so the retailers don't have that cost to pass on to the customer.

    Even the 'Pro' series are competitively priced in comparison to the major brands of mass-produced guitars. It's still cheaper to buy a Chapman Pro model than to buy (for example) a well-spec'd LTD or Sterling.
     
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  15. Brad_A

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    As a comparison of similar guitars, in Canada, an LTD EC-1000 deluxe is about $1300. A Chapman ML2-Pro is $1590. Both excellent quality Les Paul style guitars, made in the same factory. Some of the extra costs for the Chapman come with the little extra details/luxuries. Ltd has LTD branded locking tuners, Chapman has the hipshot brand. Chapman also uses the stainless steel frets and a solid carved flame maple cap. As well, I believe that particular Pro model is neck-through construction, which is more expensive to manufacture. If you look at a model like ML3 Pro, it is a set neck, and you don’t have the solid maple cap. This guitar is around $1190. It is also very comparable to the quality of the deluxe LTD models.
    As a reference, I have both an LTD eclipse deluxe and a Chapman Pro. Both excellent and worth every penny. (Even though a couple years ago, Canada ditched the penny and rounded to the nearest 5 cents!!)
     
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  16. Magnus Pym

    Magnus Pym Grudges rot the soul

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    Do those US prices include all the taxes that would be added? I'm asking because this is a subject that comes up all the time in the UK. Over here the price advertised is the price you expect to pay. My understanding is that isn't always the case in the US.
     
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  17. Brad_A

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    No these prices are before taxes. Depending on the state in the US or Canadian province, the taxes can vary. Usually in the ballpark of 5 to 15%
     
  18. SemiCullen

    SemiCullen Still haven't got the hang of Thursdays

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    But in the U.S., if you order online from a retailer not in your state, you don't pay tax. So, if I order from Guitar Center, I pay tax. If I order from Riff City, I don't pay tax.
     
  19. Magnus Pym

    Magnus Pym Grudges rot the soul

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    Quick. Mods, close this thread. There is nowhere to go now that doesn't end with someone being banned. :)
     
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    Robstafarian The Good and Wise Call Me “Rufus”

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    Ron Jeremy!
     
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