Marshall NAMM 2018

AngusWolfe

Likes red things.
#10
Origin was a no-brainer years ago really, very much looking forward to it.

As for a replacement for the JVM, where do they go from here? MORE gain? MORE channels? they could update it I guess, but I feel like whatever they do to it the fans of the JVM will be disappointed.
 

Robstafarian

The Good and Wise Call Me “Rufus”
#17
The new series has attenuators build in. You might be better servers with one of the larger units scaled back to 1w.
The Origin amps do not have attenuators, strictly speaking:
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The power scaling used on the Orgin is very different than anything Marshall has done. It works by switching the circuit board to lower the voltage on the output transformer, totally transparency in tone at lower volumes.

It works.

In person the Orgin sounds every bit the low wattage plexi tone people have asked for.
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Lots of speculation... The only I can clarify is that I started those amps and they were pretty much complete when I left BUT the amps that are released are different so I don't know what's actually in there although obviously the platform is the same.

As per what the amps were by the time I left: full tube amps, somehow related in a way to a 2061 with switchable extra gain (no extra stage nor solid started booster), Bass, Mid, Treble EQ and Tilt control. They had reverb, FX loop, emulated line out, footswitch and a 4 position attenuator so depending on the front panel power setting one could fine tune the final level with the attenuator or record without completely in silence by taking the signal after the power amp using the internal attenuator as power soak.

They were 50W/5W and 18W/2W 2xEL34 push-pull plus 5W/1W 1xEL34 switchable on the front panel. I had a combination of class AB/class A and cathode bias/fixed bias with different HT voltages for the push pull amps so the class of operation and output power could be changed depending on the front panel setting. The 5W single ended was the same amp as in the SL5, which is basically half standard push-pull running in class A. Whatever is in the current amps, I do not know.

The amps were started as the crunch channel for a Satriani combo and the tilt control is an idea to try to balance the brightness that many amps have when the gain setting is low. I presented the function as something similar in a way to be able to balance the treble and normal inputs in a 4 input amp although is not 100% the same. The name Tilt comes from a relatively old EQ method that with of single knob either boosted the bass or the treble by 'tilting' the frequency response from \ to / if that makes sense.

The original protos are featured in the song San Francisco Blue by Joe Satriani in both rhythm and solo tracks, appeared pictured in some magazines on top of several vintage amps and also appears in few videos of Paul Gilbert as he really liked the amp when I presented it to him so we sent a prototype for him to play and send feedback for development purposes.

Regarding the final released amps you'll need to wait till someone checks the amps or Marshall discloses more info... I can only talk about what I had in my bench by then. Obviously the reverb, line out and attenuator for example are gone, perhaps some other stuff has been changed too so take all the functions I tried to explain with a pinch of salt.

In any case I've heard the new amps and they sound very good to me.

Hope it helps!

EDIT: Personally, I am hoping that the 20W Origin is cathode biased—like the Mini Jubilee's 20W pair of EL34s is.
 
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sidthekidlives

Well-Known Member
#18
seems like the origin amps have generated some attention then, they seem pretty reasonable price wise also . Where are they made now ? I was under the impression that no Marshalls are made in the UK any more ?
 

alonious_monk

Permanently Tired
#19
If I can find a local stockiest I'd check out a 20w Origin for sure when they are out, to see if it's worth offloading my Peavey Classic 30. I feel a rig overhaul is long overdue.

Certainly got my attention.
 

Robstafarian

The Good and Wise Call Me “Rufus”
#20
seems like the origin amps have generated some attention then, they seem pretty reasonable price wise also . Where are they made now ? I was under the impression that no Marshalls are made in the UK any more ?
The Origin series, like the DSL series (apart from the JCM 2000 DSLs), is made in Vietnam: in the time since the previous iteration of the DSL series was released, Marshall bought that Vietnamese factory.
 
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