ENGL Ironball

craig

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#1
Hey guys I wanted to post this thread as I have now owned my ENGL Ironball just about a year and I have had Fender amps Marshall amps Orange amps and the amp I would be able to compare this most to would be my old Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier. This thing has it all, well at least for me!

I play anything from the Stones, Aerosmith to the odd Stone Sour song, Sabbath, Guns N Roses and Judas Priest (prefer their newer stuff).
The amp cleans up beautifully, does low crunchy ac/dc tones all day long and then you can push it a little harder for the heavier stuff, I must say tho I’ve never had the gain past 1 oclock! It does plenty and if I wanted to there is a gain boost switch. You can also use the gain boost as a solo boost with the foot switch, set your rhythm tone on the lead channel and then use the gain boost for the leads. I was talking to a dude in guitar guitar a week ago and he asked what amp I used, I said the ENGL Ironball and he was like “no way, those things are amazing, ENGL are overlooked” I said “I’ll probably get stick for this but I had a Mesa Dual Rectifier and this blows it away, to my ear anyway” he agreed and we stood there for a minute trying to think of a way to describe it, “the engl is tighter” he says. I don’t know if that makes sense but it does to me lol


Anyway, this thing takes pedals great, both through the front and the loop, plays anything you wanna play through it and best of all it has a power soak so you can play it at home. For the reviews I read online that says they don’t know if it will be able to be used live is bollocks, it’s too loud on full power mode! At home you won’t get it past 3.


After talking to the dude in guitar guitar I felt I had to post this as we both think ENGL are overlooked and under rated.


Here it is with my #1 - 1987 Custom
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Heres the front panel
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Rear panel:

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Oh and they light up Dark Side Red!!!

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If none of the above tickles your fancy, they now come in white too which light up Jedi Blue:

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#6
Hi...i used this and according to me its an awesome awesome mini amp. Very versatile and ballsy.Volume-wise, the few shows I played with it I never had to go past, say, 60% of the master volume. Consider that there's no 1:1 proportion between wattage and volume, so I could guess the Ironball still gets you at least around, don't know, 3/4s of the EVH volume? Unless you find yourself cranking up the EVH all the way every gig, I wouldn't worry about this too much.
 

Tankman

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#7
When I worked in a Guitar Store the Sales Rep for Engl dropped off some amps for me to check out including the Ironball hoping I would like them and I would become a dealer. I had the feeling with all of them that they sounded like there was a blanket over de speaker. Very muffled. I could not solve that, so I had to give him all his amps back and did not become a dealer in the end.
 

Chu

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#8
Hi...i used this and according to me its an awesome awesome mini amp. Very versatile and ballsy.Volume-wise, the few shows I played with it I never had to go past, say, 60% of the master volume. Consider that there's no 1:1 proportion between wattage and volume, so I could guess the Ironball still gets you at least around, don't know, 3/4s of the EVH volume? Unless you find yourself cranking up the EVH all the way every gig, I wouldn't worry about this too much.
I've always been confused by this. When I was younger, I used to play in a few loud bands with my Marshall 100w valve half stack. I would always be too loud, would upset the rest of the band and half of the audience who couldn't hear the vocals through the weedy PA but I didn't care as it sounded amazing right in front of my cab. I don't recall needing to go above 4 on the master volume. Fast forward a few years and I've gigged at bigger venues and really learned that keeping stage volume down benefits everyone and that my own rockstar moments are less important than the whole band sounding great. Even in loud bands, I've found no issue with 25w valve amps as long as I've got my cab positioned well. Of course, a great PA helps but I just cannot understand who can't use a decent lower wattage amp live. People talk abo8t headroom and I never use a super clean tone, but who really does?
 

Tankman

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#9
People talk abo8t headroom and I never use a super clean tone, but who really does?
I do. I use chorus and delay often when playing clean and I don't like it if my clean tone is breaking up. I love it when say Incubus does it, but I can't get it to work for me, so I opt for superclean tones next to my super dirty tones and nothing in between.
 

Chu

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#10
I do. I use chorus and delay often when playing clean and I don't like it if my clean tone is breaking up. I love it when say Incubus does it, but I can't get it to work for me, so I opt for superclean tones next to my super dirty tones and nothing in between.
Yeah, I was being a bit of a nob! I do use a pretty clean tone but one that if I hit hard with the bridge humbucker would still clip a little. Ease off and even try a coil split and it's spanky clean. I've always shied away from that JC120 type clean, I find that anything that clean just sounds flat in my hands but each to their own.
 

Simon Park

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#11
Chu, we've all done the 'amp too loud' thing when we were younger. I was guilty of it more than once. I think it's part of the whole learning curve.
 

Tankman

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#12
Yeah, I was being a bit of a nob! I do use a pretty clean tone but one that if I hit hard with the bridge humbucker would still clip a little. Ease off and even try a coil split and it's spanky clean. I've always shied away from that JC120 type clean, I find that anything that clean just sounds flat in my hands but each to their own.
I actually use a compressor to keep it clean when I hit hard. I do prefer tube clean. JC120 type cleans are too sterile for my taste.
 

craig

Well-Known Member
#15
When I worked in a Guitar Store the Sales Rep for Engl dropped off some amps for me to check out including the Ironball hoping I would like them and I would become a dealer. I had the feeling with all of them that they sounded like there was a blanket over de speaker. Very muffled. I could not solve that, so I had to give him all his amps back and did not become a dealer in the end.
Thats odd, every ENGL I have tried or heard sounds fantastic, the demos on the ENGL YouTube page all sound awesome. Judas Priest use ENGL live and have done for years and they soung huge.

Each to thier own tho huh, Ive had Marshall, Mesa, Orange, Fender etc and have used the Ironball more than any of the others i had.
 

Tankman

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#16
Thats odd, every ENGL I have tried or heard sounds fantastic, the demos on the ENGL YouTube page all sound awesome. Judas Priest use ENGL live and have done for years and they soung huge.

Each to thier own tho huh, Ive had Marshall, Mesa, Orange, Fender etc and have used the Ironball more than any of the others i had.
I recently also heard a Kemper Profile of an Engl Powerball I think. Same thing. Very muffled. I used to play a Peavey 6505, an Orange Jim Root Terror and a boutqiue Plexi Clone. I currently use a Wampler Catapulp that is designed to sound like an Orange Rockerverb. Maybe it's just the sounds I'm used to.
 

Chu

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#17
I recently also heard a Kemper Profile of an Engl Powerball I think. Same thing. Very muffled. I used to play a Peavey 6505, an Orange Jim Root Terror and a boutqiue Plexi Clone. I currently use a Wampler Catapulp that is designed to sound like an Orange Rockerverb. Maybe it's just the sounds I'm used to.
I have next to no knowledge on a real Powerball but have recently used a profile of one when double tracking my guitar parts for an album. I chose it because of the bite and clarity the profile had. I've tried many profiles of amps which I love, from well respected commercial packs which left me thinking 'How the hell did they make it sound so bad?'.
 
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