Crazy 12-string build

beans & rice

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#81
Very cool. I was hoping for a fiery mohawk on the pup, but I guess it wasn't to be. :D

When you went around with the orange the second time (I think it was) I saw that bit bleed into the neck pickup cavity and I held my breath hoping that was the only place it ran like that. I'm just glad you were able to get all that stain off of the checkerboard sides.
Really like how thin the body is, too.
 
#82
I should have masked it off better, but I'll know next time. I think it cost me three or four hours to clean everything up, but it's all useful experience and this evening I did the first coat of lacquer, so it's progressing steadily.

The body isn't all that thin actually - I just measured it at 42mm, which is slightly less than most guitars but not outrageously so. It's deep enough to fit a push/pull pot if necessary, although I'm not currently planning on doing that (the intended controls are volume, tone and blend). It is, however, pretty light with all that empty space, which could turn out to be a bad combination with the heavy headstock! I'll tell you when the hardware is all fitted...
 
#83
So four months after I started this guitar, today I actually finished it! It feels like it's been a long journey, and I've had to make a lot of it up as I went along, and do a lot of research on various different aspects, but I learned a lot along the way. Having been up until after 3am last night installing the pickups, I'm too tired now to do anything much more than this brief message and a quick photo.

I have played it and it sounds pretty cool - quite different from a normal guitar, and it's weird having the octave notes on four of the strings. Chords sound much fuller than on a regular 6-string.

I seem to have issues with the volume and tone pots - the volume doesn't go all the way down to zero, and the tone doesn't do much, so I will have to check my wiring. That aside, it does work, and once I'd adjusted the height of the pickups, it sounds good. It was a bugger to fit all of the strings, and it's quite time-consuming to tune it, but it does reward the extra effort.

So here is a quick photo of the finished article! I will try to get some better quality photos of this guitar at some point.
 

Wade Garrett

I am the projectionist.
#84
So four months after I started this guitar, today I actually finished it! It feels like it's been a long journey, and I've had to make a lot of it up as I went along, and do a lot of research on various different aspects, but I learned a lot along the way. Having been up until after 3am last night installing the pickups, I'm too tired now to do anything much more than this brief message and a quick photo.

I have played it and it sounds pretty cool - quite different from a normal guitar, and it's weird having the octave notes on four of the strings. Chords sound much fuller than on a regular 6-string.

I seem to have issues with the volume and tone pots - the volume doesn't go all the way down to zero, and the tone doesn't do much, so I will have to check my wiring. That aside, it does work, and once I'd adjusted the height of the pickups, it sounds good. It was a bugger to fit all of the strings, and it's quite time-consuming to tune it, but it does reward the extra effort.

So here is a quick photo of the finished article! I will try to get some better quality photos of this guitar at some point.
Yeah man! That's looking great, all the work you put in really paid off. Very cool indeed.
 

beans & rice

Well-Known Member
#85
Beautiful. The gold and silver work perfectly. You have every reason, and 12 strings, to be proud of that. :D
An audio sample would be sweet, too, once you work out the electronic bugs. I had that volume issue on one when I swapped out pickups. Reconnected the ground wrong, and it didn't go all the way off.

I've added that pic to my "porn" folder, with the various updates you've posted along the way. :D
 
#91
That’s absolutely lovely ... great job!
Humour me for a moment ... if you apply your usual hourly rate for your day job, how much would this cost?
£10k+?!
Hah, I haven't even worked out how much time that guitar has taken me! Let's try to work it out...

I started it in May and finished in September, so let's say 120 days , or for the sake of argument 17 weeks since I think it's easiest to work in hours per week. I try to aim for something like 10 hours a week of guitar-building work, so that's 170 hours during that period, although I have also worked on other guitars. I think I worked more on this guitar, though, than the others over that time so let's say 100 hours, which is probably grossly inaccurate but it'll do.

100 hours is 12.5 days at the day job...if I count that, plus the cost of the materials, plus VAT (let's go the whole hog here!) then I arrive at about £9k.

I'm actually surprised at that, because I reckon if you specced that up and asked PRS to make it for you, that's probably not far from what you'd pay, going by the Private Stock prices. A more normal luthier would, I guess, charge you something like £4-5k for a custom guitar like this - that is, if they didn't flat out refuse to make such a stupid design! :)

Mind you, a professional luthier would have made a much better guitar without the flaws. For example, some eagle-eyed sod on the Crimson Guitars forum spotted that the top e string is too close to the edge of the fretboard at the dusty end, which is because for some reason I cocked up the fretboard and instead of continuing to widen out, it carries on straight after about the 14th fret on that side. I am not yet capable of perfect quality on my guitars - I think I'm good at making interesting designs, but not yet good enough at the execution. The unusual designs distract most people from the imperfect details! ;)

Anyway, it's all a learning process at this stage, and I've learnt a lot while making this guitar. Now I have the fanned fret one to finish, and then the new Tele, and after that I might make myself a 5-string bass unless someone else comes along and asks me to make something.
 

doctorpaul

Negative, Ghost Rider, the pattern is full.
Staff member
#92
Hah, I haven't even worked out how much time that guitar has taken me! Let's try to work it out...

I started it in May and finished in September, so let's say 120 days , or for the sake of argument 17 weeks since I think it's easiest to work in hours per week. I try to aim for something like 10 hours a week of guitar-building work, so that's 170 hours during that period, although I have also worked on other guitars. I think I worked more on this guitar, though, than the others over that time so let's say 100 hours, which is probably grossly inaccurate but it'll do.

100 hours is 12.5 days at the day job...if I count that, plus the cost of the materials, plus VAT (let's go the whole hog here!) then I arrive at about £9k.

I'm actually surprised at that, because I reckon if you specced that up and asked PRS to make it for you, that's probably not far from what you'd pay, going by the Private Stock prices. A more normal luthier would, I guess, charge you something like £4-5k for a custom guitar like this - that is, if they didn't flat out refuse to make such a stupid design! :)

Mind you, a professional luthier would have made a much better guitar without the flaws. For example, some eagle-eyed sod on the Crimson Guitars forum spotted that the top e string is too close to the edge of the fretboard at the dusty end, which is because for some reason I cocked up the fretboard and instead of continuing to widen out, it carries on straight after about the 14th fret on that side. I am not yet capable of perfect quality on my guitars - I think I'm good at making interesting designs, but not yet good enough at the execution. The unusual designs distract most people from the imperfect details! ;)

Anyway, it's all a learning process at this stage, and I've learnt a lot while making this guitar. Now I have the fanned fret one to finish, and then the new Tele, and after that I might make myself a 5-string bass unless someone else comes along and asks me to make something.
It’s awesome ... really something to be proud of.
 
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